The subject that many of us were involved with did have a bit to deal with. I have experienced what it would be like to live under dictatorial control, I have been under house arrest, Have all my rights stripped and to be treated as fair game. I have had over a million $ in resources stolen from me by the "finance police". I have been followed for months, if not years by private investigators. I have had my life and future threatened. I have had my friends, associates and staff systematically turned against me. I have been declared publicly as a mean and terrible person. I have had the honor of being their public enemy # 1, ( preceded by Alan and followed by David Mayo and then a host of others. I have had my case secrets exaggerated and made public. I could go on and on but many of you have your own, loss of families, friends, games, money, time. The list could go on and on. Some lost their dreams or at least the belief that a group could function to bring them about mutual dreams. I would like to comment on the abuse we have experienced, 1. We can't spend the rest of our lives being victim to that series of events. 2. My attitude was and still is, that this is just button bushing ( bull baIting, power plays), on the survival areas of groups and mankind. If you confront, be present with and are able to permeate these events you get bigger if not, oh well. It was group processing and an environmental processing. Ones reaction made it a - or + process. All of life is just a process. You have a choice it seems to me, to let it affect you or get on with handling it and following your dreams. You know, it takes heat and pressure to make a diamond out of coal. Their are many diamonds and diamonds in the rough (like me) that can use this experience to achieve what it is they want to. 3. It can take some time to handle what can be triggered from such a betrayal. Even worse can be to continue to operate on some of the false ideas and precepts one got from some earlier practices. Alan and I added up the amount of processing we had done from the time of leaving that subject to the discovery of the codes. It was well over 5000 hours we had co- processed.( Alan more than I as he processed a great deal with Eric on this area as well as others). This work in my view has to be played for the long time. To reach ones potential takes some work and serious effort. Mastery takes time. We are becoming the Masters of the Knowledge of life!!! Life contains a lot! It is a big subject!! 4. For me it was the right place at the right time. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. I was not involved for status or to please the authorities. I was there to learn a skill that would help me better handle my life and to handle areas of charge and difficulties in reaching my full potential. I have trained and retrained, I processed and processed, I drilled and I drilled. I got what I got. I have no complaints. I gained a great deal. When that subject fell apart for me it didn't change what I had gained or accomplished. Was it complete? No ! Did it deliver all that it promised? No ! Did the organization turn into an enemy group? Yes! Did I make tremendous gains? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? Because I was one of the highest trained and had the most # of hours in the chair of any of my peers. I also ran my life as a process, the ultimate process as Alan says. It was and always has been an adventure of discovery for me. I have gained from the good, the bad and the ugly. These experiences enabled me to access areas of my case and locked up area of life and power that could not have been accessed in any other way to my knowledge. YOU CAN ONLY LOSE IN THIS GAME BY NOT BEING PERSISTENT AND NOT TAKING YOUR NEXT STEPS. YOU ONLY LOSE IF YOU STOP PLAYING. Winston Churchill was gave a famous speech, As I recall the entirety of the Speech was, (DELIVERED WITH FULL INTENTION WITH OUT RESERVATION ) NEVER ! .... NEVER ! .....NEVER ! ..... NEVER ! ..... NEVER ! .... NEVER GIVE UP !!!!! 5. My final point, What we do with the knowledge we have and the connections we make can cause us lifetimes of regret or joy. It up to each of us to decide at what level we wish to play and what are the long term consequences over lifetimes, for ourself and the ones we care about. Dean Stokes dean@ont.com Allen, TX USA